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NIV brings spiritual HIV
How can you make your focus denying all other versions of God's word from all over the world, calling them a disease? I have met many people confused by thinking King James is the only version ... Please stop causing foolish controversies and see the NIV testifies to blood atonement and virgin birth which your tract NIV/HIV denys.
You said, How can you make your focus denying all other versions of God's word from all over the world, calling them a disease?
First, we do not make our focus denying the multitude of versions out there, rather we focus on affirming that Gods Word was given pure and is promised to be preserved pure.
The Bible was given pure. 2 Timothy 3:14-17 says, 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
The Bible has been preserved pure. Psalms 12:6-7 says, 6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, THOU SHALT PRESERVE THEM FROM THIS GENERATION FOR EVER.
The doctrine of inspiration is totally worthless without the doctrine of preservation, for what good is it to give something pure, and then have it corrupted the first time it is copied or translated? When Paul was talking to Timothy, he was affirming both doctrines, because Timothy did not have the originals, and yet had complete confidence that he had the perfect holy Scriptures, That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
When you focus on the truth, then you quickly spot error when you see it. Isaiah 8:20 says, To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. The focus is the pure and preserved Word of God, so when anything deviates from that, it is quickly spotted and shown as error.
This is why when the NIV leaves out the phrase through his blood in Colossians 1:14, it is an immediate red flag that goes up with people who are familiar with the Bible. Colossians 1:13-14 says, 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD, even the forgiveness of sins. The NIV reads, In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
What does that change have to do with ease of reading? Is there anyone that does not understand what the word blood means? Is there anyone that does not understand the preposition through? Is there anyone that does not understand the pronoun his? This change has nothing to do with readability, but has everything to do with reliability. The doctrine of redemption through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ is of utmost importance. Without it, there is no way to be saved. Please refer to the message series on this site regarding in-depth dealing with this matter. Also, there will be companion Bible Courses dealing with that series shortly, Lordwilling.
What always amazes me is how so many professing Christians defend what the translators of the NIV have done. They say, Well they took the blood out in this passage, but they left it in in other passages! Okay, so you have 10 fingers, can I cut one off? You still have 9 other fingers. Or, will you mind if take someone else and cut off one of his fingers? Will you defend my actions in court before the judge? Will you plead on my behalf and tell the judge, Well, he only cut off one of the mans fingers. He has 9 more what is the big deal? Or can I cut off one of your toes you still have 9 more. How can you defend someone who has taken away from Gods Word? It matters not whether there are 9 more verses where they left the blood in there.
They have done the unthinkable they have boldly and brazenly taken away from the Word of God. How can you defend such people? The Bible is very clear that such people are not truly saved. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. If you want to try and limit that verse to just the Book of Revelation, they are still not saved, because they have taken away from verses in the Book of Revelation, too.
Revelation 5:14 says, And the four beasts said, Amen. And the FOUR AND TWENTY elders fell down and worshipped HIM THAT LIVETH FOR EVER AND EVER. The NIV reads, The four living creatures said, Amen, and the elders fell down and worshiped. The NIV translators removed four and twenty. Who does not understand the number 24? What if you got your next bank statement and it simply said, You have some money in our bank. Would you be satisfied with that statement? Would you not want to know the amount of your money in there? If you would not allow a bank to get away with not listing the number, why would you defend the NIV translators and their removal of the number of the elders? Not only that, but they then go on to remove the phrase that describes the One being worshipped, HIM THAT LIVETH FOR EVER AND EVER. Does it matter to whom we fall down and worship? Yes it does only God is to be worshipped. What is hard about understanding the words liveth, and ever?
There are other examples given in the message series where the NIV translators have taken away from Gods Word in the Book of Revelation. According to Gods Word, such men are not saved. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Will you defend such men and deny what the Bible clearly says? Do you know more than God? Do you know that deep down these men are actually good and godly? Is God just mistaken about these translators? Matthew 7:15-23 says, 15 BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, WHICH COME TO YOU IN SHEEPS CLOTHING, BUT INWARDLY THEY ARE RAVENING WOLVES. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 AND THEN WILL I PROFESS UNTO THEM, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME,, ye that work iniquity. These are all very religious people referred to here but all very lost, and will spend eternity in the lake of fire. God tells us to judge them by their fruit. The NIV translators have openly and brazenly taken away from the Word of God that is bad fruit. God warns us that such people are not saved, although they appear to be religious. Will you deny the Word of God to defend such men?
You said, How can you make your focus denying all other versions of God's word from all over the world, calling them a disease?"
You need to read the HIV-NIV tract again, because you have misquoted what it says. It does not call all other Bible translations in the world a "disease." It is the NIV that is likened unto the HIV virus, because they both weaken the body (HIV - weakens the physical body, allowing other diseases to overcome the physical body) (NIV - weakens the body of Christ, the church, by taking away from God's Word, the truth, allowing the world, the flesh, and the devil to come in and weaken the body). The HIV virus is not what actually kills the body. The HIV virus attacks the immune system of the body, which allows other viruses or diseases to attack the body and overcome it. That is exactly what the NIV has done to the body of Christ, the church. The NIV itself does not kill the church, but it kills the T cell of the church the Truth, thus allowing other errors to enter into the church, destroying its effectiveness in this world. NIV churches are typically churches that will not judge sin. They are on the forefront of allowing Christian Rock music into the churches (please see the messages on this site in regard to how to tell the right kind of music). Even the world admits that the rock beat is immoral (see the multitude of quotes in those messages by secular rock musicians). What is strange, and extremely sad, is that it is only contemporary Christians who are claiming that All music is neutral. The trained musicians of this world know that that is a foolish and totally untrue statement. Why do films always have a musical background? Because music gives a message yes, just the notes, with no words at all. Minor keys make you sad; syncopation makes your body want to move to the beat, etc. (listen to the messages on this site). Why are the NIV churches on the forefront of bringing in the full rock band gear into their churches (drums, electric guitars, etc.)? Because they have let the NIV virus into their churches. It attacked the absolute, unchangeable truth of Gods Word. If you accept the NIV with its bold and brazen omissions from Gods Word, then there is NOTHING that you can JUDGE and say, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. That is why Christians in many of these NIV churches are starting to socially drink liquor, going to the movies, going to dances (see the policy change of the once Grand Rapids Baptist College, now called Cornerstone), wearing very immodest clothes, getting tattooed, getting body piercings, etc.
If you allow the Bible to be attacked and changed as the NIV has done, then you have allowed the churches immune system to be turned off. If the Bible can be changed, then it is no longer Gods Word that we are following, but mans opinion. The KJV is the Received Text that has been handed down from generation to generation, in fulfillment of Gods promise of preservation (Psalms 12:6-7, 6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.). The NIV changed all of these verses based on what the scholars say. And they have already done so again, by producing the TNIV translation, with many more changes. It is no longer, What has God said and preserved down through the centuries?, but is now, What do the scholars say?
You said, I have met many people confused by thinking King James is the only version because it is a language no longer used outside of this version. I have asked people what common words mean to test their knowledge.
I have heard that reasoning amongst professing Christians who are trying to justify why they continue using the NIV, but I have consistently found the opposite to be true in real life and ministry where the rubber meets the road. I have pastored for 26 years, and I have never met a sincere Christian who has been "confused" by the King James Version, but I have heard people testify to me that they were confused by the modern English translations when they were using them. What is a satrap? In the NIV, Esther 9:3 says, And all the nobles of the provinces, the SATRAPS, the governors and the kings administrators helped the Jews, because fear of Mordecai had seized them. What about Daniel 3:2 in the NIV? He then summoned the SATRAPS, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates and all the other provincial officials to come to the dedication of the image he had set up. This is what it says in the KJV, Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the PRINCES, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellors, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. Who does not understand what a prince is? Merriam-Websters 11th Collegiate Dictionary says the word satrap is a 14th century word. That is a word 300 years older than the KJV. That is not an update, and shows the total hypocrisy of the translators when they claimed to be updating Old English words.
Confusion is caused by a lost condition (1 Corinthians 2:14, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."), or confusion is caused by an unwillingness to study (2 Timothy 2:15, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."), or confusion is caused by Christians who are not really living for God as they ought (Hebrews 5:11-14, "Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." those are the hearers of the Word, but not doers of it).
The number one goal of Bible translation is not "simplicity," but "accuracy." If the goal is "simplicity," then you are going to lose a lot of "accuracy." In school we expect the children to learn new words when they are learning new subjects. Is learning in the spiritual realm less important? Is the spiritual realm unworthy of our study? Is it unworthy of the requirement to learn new words at times? Try taking a college course and making the stipulation, I will take this course, if you promise that I will not have to study or learn any new words. If you promise that you will bring everything down on my level, then I will take this course. You would be laughed out of every college. They would say, Come back when you are serious about learning something!
Luke 16:8 says, And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for THE CHILDREN OF THIS WORLD ARE IN THEIR GENERATION WISER THAN THE CHILDREN OF LIGHT. O, how true that is today! Contemporary Christians maintain that all music is neutral (so they feel justified in playing their rock music), but the world is wiser than they are, and knows that music is not neutral. Contemporary Christians think that they are spiritual when they can sit in a church service, and everyone is reading out of a different translation of the Bible, but the world is wiser than they are. Take any class in the world, and the teacher will say, The textbook we are going to use for this class is _________, the _______ edition. Even the children of this world know that if you are going to learn, then you must base your learning on the same text book. The Charismatic movement thinks that it is a sign of real spirituality to have people jabbering in all kinds of tongues in their services, just like the Contemporary Christian thinks it is a sign of real spirituality to have so many Bible translations represented in the services. The clear fact is that neither situation is spiritual at all, but utterly confusing. That is not spiritual and not of God. 1 Corinthians 14:33 says, For GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
The NIV is spiritual HIV. If you focus on the unchanging truth of God (KJV), you will see in a moment what has happened.
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